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strejdaking asked: What is your responce to "the Doctor Who is more popular and has wider audience thanks to Moffat" argument?
Well, first of all, it has no bearing on *my* opinion of Moffat, or my right to criticize the show. I’m very used to disliking things that are popular and liking things that are unpopular.
Secondly, since there are so many different ways of viewing available, besides turning on your tv when the show is broadcast, it’s increasingly hard to measure exactly how big the audience is. A lot of people say the show is more popular now without showing any evidence of it. In fact, kilodalton did an analysis which shows that viewing rates are actually stagnating. (This was written before the 50th anniversary, which did have quite high ratings, but then that was a unique event and the BBC promoted the hell out of it.)
Even if viewership has increased during the Moffat era, that doesn’t prove that Moffat is the cause. I’ve heard it said that the BBC started promoting the show more intensively during Moffat’s era, especially in the U.S. (I don’t have facts and figures for this, so take it with a grain of salt.)
As I understand it, TV ratings measure the people who are watching the show live, or within a short period of time after live broadcast. They don’t count how many people are currently watching earlier seasons. All of the seasons of New Who are readily available online, so a person who starts watching during the Moffat era doesn’t necessarily start with Moffat. For instance, I started watching in 2012, but I began with the 2005 season, and that season is by far my favorite. But as far as ratings are concerned, I wouldn’t have been counted as a viewer until Series 7B.
Consider this: in all of the polls I’ve seen, more people choose Ten over
Eleven as their favorite Doctor, sometimes by a factor of three or four. So even though viewership is (perhaps) larger under Moffat than under RTD, it doesn’t seem to be true that more people prefer Moffat.
I hope that answers your question.
Yeah my ratings analysis deals with strictly UK ratings. Now the retort that is nearly always used in the “omg it is soooooo much more popular now” is that “oh the low/stagnating TV ratings don’t matter because people watch on iPlayer on their computer nowadays.” The problem is that iPlayer reports only total views not total viewers.
- If you rebuffer your video 5 times because your connection is shit, you’re 5 views despite being 1 viewer
- If you don’t understand the dialogue and have to run it back 5 times to catch what you miss, you’re 5 views despite being 1 viewer
- If your roommate interrupts you 5 times and you need to pause it or shut down your computer and come back to rewatch from the point you left off at, you’re 5 views despite being 1 viewer
- If you love the episode so much that you watch it 5 times… you’re 5 views despite being 1 viewer
Those are only a handful of situations, but congrats— you and you alone are 20 “views” now!
What’s a bit maddening is that the BBC doesn’t NEED to do this. They have to track IP addresses (that’s how they keep non-UK viewers from being able to stream the media), so they know full well how many people are accessing it. But reporting “number of views” is going to by definition be a much more impressive—and incredibly misleading—number than “number of viewers”. So they report that number instead.
Similarly, in the USA, people have been super-hyping ‘DW is so popular in the US now ommggggggggggg’ for a while. BBCA actually released ratings for 7B season episode The Rings of Akhaten - 2 million viewers.
That’s about as well as SPN does, it’s worse than TVD does on its really, really bad days, and it’s less than half of what the US version of Downton can pull in on PBS in its sleep. (And as merryghoul points out, if you want to compare to other cable shows such as Game of Thrones - which is on HBO and much more $$$ than BBCA - this show is pulling over twice these viewers as well).
All this hype … over 2 million viewers. lol. lololol. Interestingly, BBCA stopped reporting ratings after that - this probably represented a high for them which is most likely why they put it in a freaking PRESS RELEASE in the first place, and is there really any doubt it went down after that (or they would have told us)?
Tl;dr they’re reporting (and hyping) the numbers they want us to see. Otherwise, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain =P
Anecdotally, there does seem to be more general awareness of the show here in the US. Once upon a time, I could be decked head-to-toe in merch and no one would be any the wiser, it was like speaking Geek Code. This weekend I took my son to the Children’s Museum and while waiting in line a gaggle of 9-year-old girls in front of us in line noted my TARDIS shirt and started talking amongst themselves about the show. There was one amongst them who didn’t know what they were talking about and they were all, “Oh my GOD, you don’t know what the TARDIS is??!!!?”
That would have never happened in Midwestern Flyover Land 7 years ago.
However, there’s many more possible explanations than just “The show is better now, so nyah.”
- The reboot has now been on for 7 years. That’s a lot of time to accumulate viewers.
- It is aired on BBC America now, which gives it publicity and at least mostly understands what the show is, what its target demographic is and how to market it. (None of that was true when it was on SciFi, which seemed inexplicably convinced that Doctor Who was some sort of gritty adult property.)
- There are so many different ways to watch TV right now, gaining new viewers is no longer contingent on having the right cable package or living in the right country or being old enough to stay up late enough to watch. This has been a huge shift that has pretty much entirely taken place over the past 5 years.
- I don’t know what the cause/effect relationship is, but merch is like 10000% easier to get in the US these days. My local Barnes and Noble is like a freaking DW emporium. So someone somewhere has really done a bang-up job with the marketing.
So, while the official ratings may not be higher, there is definitely a greater cultural awareness of the show here in the US. But I think it’s ignoring a lot of other possible factors to just default to, “it’s because the show’s better, duh.” There’s a lot of other stuff going on.
The story and Moffat’s era in general, is one almighty sieve. It’s shiny and makes awesome noises if you bang it with a spoon, but it’s absolutely full of holes and can’t hold anything (your attention, any character development, any tension) for more than a moment.
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